DECEMBER 2010 7 NON-PRO FORUM DECEMBER 2010 Hi members.
Well we are now into the December Non Pro Forum.
We have had some major changes in our NCHA management, however it would appear that things are working & we are on the move.
I hope everything goes well for everyone & you all help us to make this a better place to cut.
To do something I have published a member’s view on the top end cutting & the people who spend their lives ensuring our remote area cutters can compete in the serious competitions.
It also makes us realize how dedicated some of our cutters are.
Good on you Dennis & Susie From: Tiffany Power Affiliate News North Queensland Cutting Horse Association The year has been a good year.
We have managed to put on 8 shows for our area between us (NQCHA) and the Top End Western Horse Club (TEWHC).
Our year began in April when a few of us had Richard Prew for a five day clinic and also a judge’s clinic.
I picked him up from the Cairns airport and then we drove for another 2 hrs to get to our destination.
It’s a small cattle station in Far North Queensland.
The turnoff to the property has old railway museum and pub, only it’s a BYO pub, so you can imagine what Mr.
Prew had to say.
There were many more little experiences but to many to say.
The five day clinic was great.
He is a good teacher who can get onto everyone’s level, calls a spade a spade and has heaps of patience (to a point).
We love having him up here.
We also got him up here to judge a show.
We also had a couple of our locals step up to judge a couple shows.
To all the other judges we have had up here thank-you.
We hope you enjoyed our northern hospitality.
We thoroughly enjoy having you and appreciate any advice you give us.
We know our standard is improving every year.
I would also like to acknowledge a family that has made it to compete in the Tamworth Futurity for the last few years, that is Les Buckingham and family.
I am sure that everyone has their own challenges to get to the futurities but I feel that Les’s would be one of the most challenging.
For those of you who are not familiar with the North our wet season starts around October (mostly storms) it gets stinking hot, so you do your best to work in the cool.
When the wet comes in it is like the great rain that Southern Qld has received this year.
We get rain off and on through to May.
We don’t have just pre works because it is sometimes (as people would understand) hard to get cattle.
So for us in the North our season basically begins in May and ends in October.
My hat goes off to Les and Alison Cooper who do the best they can.
It was great to see one of our lot from the North make it into the non-pro finals this year.
Good on you Alison.
I myself finally was able to afford to get off our lovely little hill here in the North and traveled down to the Comet Cutting show.
It was very nerve racking at first.
People who are very competitive, who are at the top of their game, and get to a lot more shows and preworks I found (in all honesty) very daunting.
Richard and Tammy Comiskey (who I travelled down with) were great support.
Another couple I met who are good friends of theirs is Sue Zerafa and Denis Donovan.
My hat goes off to Denis who I believe is the main drive behind the Comet Futurity.
Being involved in organizing a show (even though not on such a grand scale) I thank-you for the effort that was made for us all.
Sue, who I can relate to very well the most unassuming person I’ve met (besides you Richard) yet has achieved so much in the cutting horse industry and Sue I’m sure when I say this Tammy will agree.
We truly appreciate all your help, we know how lucky we were to have you support us.
By the end of the show although I didn’t do very well, I gained experience on a different level and am glad I competed.
For me it was a little nerve racking at first.
It was eye opening to see how serious people are.
I know there is a lot of money involved cutting and everybody is out to win but I truly hope that people don’t lose sight of also having fun and seeing the smiles on the young ones, and the older people who are game to have ago.
I hope everyone has a great Christmas and New Year.
All the places that have been in drought I hope this rain has reached you and things can go happily forward.
Thank-you North Queensland Cutting Horse Association for your shows, and the people who supported them.
Best Wishes Tiffany Thanks Tiffany, I found this very refreshing, as we seem to forget what happens in the majority of affiliates & seem to always concentrate on the major aged shows.
Hopefully we as a Board will never lose sight of the fact that the majority of our members are weekend cutters & although might never win major shows & the accolades, they are the back bone of our Association & should never be taken for granted.
Ron Dear Ron The new Non Pro Classification rule is a contentious issue and one where the Board needs to show leadership.
It is obvious that something has to be done and that the rules should reflect the true essence of the words “Non Pro”.
It is not fair that some riders can take advantage of the rule as it stands and are able to train Campdraft or Challenge horses for money (either directly or indirectly) and ride as Non Pros.
There is growing opinion in the Non Pro community that adding the words “…a professional is a person who TRAINS HORSES ON CATTLE OR A MECHANICAL COW for direct or indirect remuneration…” will clear up the matter to the satisfaction of the majority.
Personally, I think if you make your living from any type of horse training there is no getting around the fact that you are a professional horseman and you are competing against Non Pros that show cutting horses for a Hobby.
These are folks with full time jobs that ride their horses before or after work and are the lifeblood of our industry.
I think there are two points to consider: The first is how to encourage the Campdraft community into cutting without disadvantaging the Non Pros.
Obviously entry level one, the snaffle bit class is a great starting place.
As a second entry level for “Professional” Campdraft riders that will not automatically transition into Non Pro classes under the new rule, the NCHA could consider a 12 month amnesty, (similar to the Apprentice Trainer amnesty) where riders have a transition period to either phase out of training Campdrafters or surrender their Non Pro Status.
No rider is excluded from cutting, as Novice and Open classes are available to anyone who wishes to show. (Note: there are no Non Pro Campdraft events.
If a Non Pro Cutter wishes to Draft they will be up against the elite Campdrafters right from the start with no possibility of an entry level.) The second point is how to manage the “Professional” horseman such as Horse Breakers and Reining Horse trainers that don’t get paid to work horses on cattle.
An amateur classification where the ruling on “Professional” horseman is more rigid would fix the problem outright.
That is, Horse Breakers and the like would be eligible for Non Pro status but ineligible for Amateur status as it excludes 8 DECEMBER 2010 NATIONAL CUTTING HORSE ASSOCIATION CHATTA anyone that has EVER been paid to ride ANY kind of horse. (If the “EVER” part of this rule is too harsh for Australia, a three year sit out period may be more suitable.) Rookies & $3,500 Non Pro would come under the Amateur Only Classification with the same money limits while the Non Pro Classification would include $10,000 Non Pro, Novice Non Pro and Open Non pro.
If we manage the Amateur Classes carefully we will protect this portion of our membership without hijacking the Non Pro industry and should have a positive effect on membership as is the case in the US.
Special attention needs to be paid to the Aged events so not to destroy the integrity of the Non Pro Classes.
It is one thing to be concerned with new membership, but if we are to stop the erosion of our current membership these issues have to be addressed.
Lloyd Neilsen Good afternoon to y’all, I was just reading my latest edition of the Chatta and was most interested to read Joe’s letter in the Non-Pro Forum.
I think what he is proposing is a great idea and I’m wondering if the NCHA will give consideration to this.
My husband and I, we I in particular, have been long time members of the NCHA.
More recently we have not been active competitors as the appeal for the showing aspect is a little diminished due to a number of factors, one of which is that we have reached an age (over 60) when there are a lot of other priorities in life that take up a considerable amount of time.
Sure, we could send our horses out for training, been there done all of that and the horses are so broke and trained that not much else other than a bit of loping before an event is all that it takes to put in a decent run.
The problem is, we don’t want to continue paying the increasingly high prices for our sport when we are at an age when prudence about finances is a bigger consideration these days.
Also, there is an important factor that intense competition brings and that is lack of fun and enjoyment of our chosen sport.
There is very little opportunity to just go to a show and relax and enjoy the sport of cutting, have a good laugh without taking ones self too seriously because of the cost factor.
Maturity brings with it the point of view that fun is an important factor in life.
I’m not suggesting for a minute that the standard of cutting should be compromised in any way in a Mature Age Person event if there was to be a clear cut criteria to fulfil for horse and rider.
Our two horses are capable of running above 70 (if the cattle are well behaved) and we are at a loss as to what to do now.
We love the sport of cutting and it has been a huge part of our lives for so many years, it would be a pity indeed if the NCHA did not give some thought as to how people like us, and there are quite a few of them out there, could continue on in the sport for many more years.
There is another factor that you might consider, the membership drop off rate due to the fact that so many of the general population is ageing and the over 60’s form a pretty big crowd these days.
Just take a good look in the galleries at the shows and see the faces still capable of competing and ask yourself, why aren’t they?! Kindest regards, Brenda McCorkell 245 Bones Road, Bells Beach 3228 PS.
Welcome new staff members and I’ll make myself know at next year’s futurity.
Good luck with the new job! Hello Ron I’m not sure if your forum is the appropriate spot for this note but will leave that to you.
At the pink cutting Scott and Kim Campbell purchased the fishing trip donated by Mr Dave Christensen, this was for 4 days at the Hinchenbrook fishing comp, four of us ended up going and what a ball we had, I have fished most of the NSW coast and none of that area can compare with this, if I can on behalf of the four guys Jeffro, Steve, Scott, and myself, I would like to thank Dave and his son Scott for a memorable few days fishing, we got one heaviest and almost three, pipped on the last day, if this donation comes up again at the next pink cutting I suggest that all you serious fisho cutters get on it, it’s for a good cause and a great time will be had by all that love fishing Photo: NCHA members, Geoff Elliott, Junior Tanner, Bruce Campbell and Scott Campbell at Port Hinchinbrook with their fish caught on the first day of the Classic Fishing Competition.
The trip was purchased at the 2010 Pink Cutting held at Moss Vale earlier in the Year. Gone fishing, Bruce Campbell. — AQHA Big River Cutting Club Inc Central Coast Reg Cutting Club Central Hope Cutters Dorrigo Silverspurs Campdraft Assoc East Coast Cutting Horse Assn Eastern Falls Cutting Events Hunter Valley Ch Club Inc Northern Rivers Ch Club Peel Valley Cutting Club Inc.
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What does that mean??? Did you know that you don’t have to own a horse to ride in the Rookies? That’s right, when starting out as a Rookie you can beg for, borrow, or steal a horse if you have to – well maybe not steal, but believe me there are plenty of opportunities when getting started in the cutting pen.
Of course, don’t get me wrong readers, the opportunity may cost you a lot in loping time, washing tails and carting water buckets, but it’s well worth it in my personal opinion, for some of the best lessons are learnt in the loping pen or whilst cooling one out.
What is a Rookie you ask? It’s a person with under $1,000 or 30 points in lifetime earnings from NCHA affiliated cuttings.
So this means you could have won $10,000 in the campdraft arena, or in any other equine sport, but provided you have not won over $1,000 in NCHA affiliated events, guess what? You’re a Rookie! Let me guess, your next question is ‘what is an affiliated cutting?’ An affiliated cutting is an event that is made up of classes that are in accordance with the NCHA rule book.
Many affiliated weekend shows also hold unaffiliated classes such as the Beginner Rider, but unaffiliated classes do not accrue points or money toward your NCHA lifetime earnings and are not recorded in the NCHA register – hope I am still making sense.
Alrighty, reining back over to the subject.
The horse you have begged for, borrowed, or stolen to ride in the Rookies can be owned by anybody and can have no earnings, lots of earnings, won a Warwick Gold Cup, roped a steer or even be the trainer’s turnback horse – although that one is not recommended! So other than ensuring you haven’t won $1,000 in the NCHA, the only other thing you have to do is probably the scariest, but most exciting thing you may ever do… Drop the reins and enjoy the ride! S.W. QLD Beaudesert Cutting & Wp Club Inc Beef City Cutters Burdekin Quarter Horse & Cutting Ass Capella Indoor Cutting Clermont Performance Horse Club Cotton Country Cutting Club Darling Downs Cutting Club Lockyer & Dist Cutting Club Nebo Cattle And Coal Country Cutting North Queensland Cutting Horse Ass Paradise Lagoons Campdraft Inc.
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